Are Microsoft SAP and HP participating?
If you compare what happened to Eclipse we are still in the middle of the adoption curve and the adoption is pretty good, 40-50 companies are signed up, some of them are bigger companies. Oracle is participating so you will see some fairly large competitor companies and business partners, but the truth is that our biggest competitors like HP and Microsoft are not there yet, and that is very similar to what happened with Eclpise. There was a huge amount of adoption for Eclipse, but the very large competitors were the last to arrive. The same story is holding true for OSLC, there is a bunch of early adopters and we are beginning to see some adoption from larger players like Oracle, while HP is taking a wait and see approach.